Why Your Home Business System Will NEVER Work
There’s a couple key aspects to home business
systems that I want to make sure you
understand and can use immediately, so focus
in here for about 3 minutes and 48 seconds
while I explain.
If you “get” what I’m about to share, you’ll
never be duped into wasting money and time
only to be left frustrated, humiliated, and
broke.
Most network marketing or home business
systems are fundamentally flawed.
We tend to believe just because someone uses
the word system that it’s fail safe, but
without really knowing what a system is it’s
just a word that holds vague perceptions
without certain meaning.
So let’s get this important lesson in.
Systems are two things:
1. Leveraged, meaning they produce larger
results than immediate effort. For example
this message you’re reading is leveraged.
Why? I share this knowledge once and hit
submit and over 80,000 people get it.
2. Do not require physical force effort. This
one is a little tougher to conceptualize.
What this means is, in a REAL system you’re
not having to force yourself to work it. The
effects occur with or without you there.
For example, I recently went to Greece for two
weeks, while there I had a few days where I
generated over 2673 leads while I was touring
the Greek Islands.
I applied no force or effort. The systems
were set and played out regardless of my
personal interaction with them.
You have these two things and you have a
basic system.
From now on, when you here the word system
ask yourself whether or not it has these two
components. If you can answer yes, you do in
fact have a basic system.
If not you don’t.
Now let’s compare this to what happens when
we first start a home business.
Most often the person that brings us in say
“Don’t worry we’ve got marketing systems”.
Our immediate emotion response is relief
because we hear the word system and think
things are already set in place for our success.
The next day we sign up and get involved and
we get exposed to our new system and we are
told to go buy leads at a pre chosen vendor
and then to call and read a pre written script
to those leads.
My question to you is . . .
Is this a system?
Share your insights below by simple leaving
a comment in the space provided below.
Let me know:
1. Whether or not this is in fact a system.
2. Why it is or is not.
3. What you would do if presented with this system.
4. What you would consider a REAL system after
learning the basal components shared today.
I’ll be reading and replying to your responses and
by the end of the day we’ll all fully grasp the
concept.
Today, let’s explore this idea together.
And feel free to comment back to other’s insights,
let’s engage our minds fully in this topic today.
To the top,
Daegan
“The King Of Never Calling A Single Lead”
P.S. I and those I’ve helped have succeed,
not by physical force or manual labor, but
because we create and use simple systems that
do the work for us. That’s the path of the
smart wealth seeker. The one who wants to win
the money game from day one. Our blueprint is
yours free. Get it now and put it into action
by clicking here.
You are right Daegan. But even with your system promotion is necessary right?
Can I use your system to build Global Domains International?
Caroline,
Very keen insight. I was getting to that discussion tomorrow. There are different systems to have. Lead generation or promotional efforts are just as systemizable as everything else. So promotional systems can be autopilot. As a simple example take PPC, once it’s set it’s set, but we’ll be digging deeper tomorrow.
Very good insight and thanks for sharing.
To the top,
Daegan
Why Your Home Business System Will NEVER Work Based on your definition, this is definitely not a system. It’s not leveraged and it requires work that nobody would enjoy. Hopefully, I would’nt fall for the pitch in the first place, but if I was duped, I’d be asking for the iron-clad moneyback guarantee that they all promise.
Bisong,
Thanks for the question, but let’s focus on discussing this topic a little more than just asking about my system. (The answer is yes of course) But share your thoughts on todays topic a little more fully and let’s dig deep.
To the top,
Daegan
First I would like to take this quick opportunity to say thanks for your education, through the emails
you send me after discovering you through Success University. Your teaching is just so solid and true, I don’t care what anyone says. I just had not had the time to say this, but I know in my heart had I followed it well, I would have achieved successful results by now, however, there has been a few obstacles here and there.
Back to the question on systems! I find it very interesting you have had to ask that question and why you did. How can you recommend a system and then refer them to by leads from a vendor? I personally think that’s not right as it forfeits the whole purpose of the company’s marketing system. The system should be said to be flowed or a fraud and I wouldn’t use it neither would I buy the leads from the recommended source as I now know what a true system is, which is the only real system period.
Sorry to have been blunt, was just in a hurry.
Thanks again.
Daegan, I have never actually tried to build a business using the whole buying leads and calling them method,(fortunately for me) however I recognise that the scenario that you you have described certainly does not constitute a system by your definition.
During my second exposure to network marketing here in the UK, my upline team had a perfect “system” in place or so they said. They went so far to say that their system never failed, only people failed to work the system. I look back now and realise that by any bodies definition, it was an insult to the intelligence for them to have used the term system, and that all they were really doing was creating a culture of dependence amongst the organisation
Through paying close attention to your training material I now realise that a true system provides a complete step by step blueprint of how to build a network marketing business from the ground as well as enabling its execution, by creating leverage and the ability to generate income without the need for physical force effort.
Thanks for your leadership.
Grahame Brown (UK)
Grahame,
I’m shaking my head in agreement with everything you’re saying. Well said my friend.
To the top,
Daegan
To tell the truth, I am looking forward to learning how I don’t have to make any calls. No voice. Sure hope this is not just another scam. Where in the world are the honest people, I know you are out there. Let’s see what you’ve got.
….and yes, a system that is not a complete system, is no system at all.
Sailor,
You have to let go of the fear and go after what you want. Fear shrinks you. I do my best to tell it like I see because that was lacking when I began. Stick around and continue to share your thoughts and ideas you’ll see.
Thanks for sharing my friend.
To the top,
Daegan
I believe, with any business, system or no system, that success comes to those that have the mental capacity to be creative and be thinkers. If you are not smart or someone who strives to improve your mental capacity, you are not cut out to be in business for yourself. Just get a 9 to 5 and call it a day. Deagan, I think your content is awesome, but even with your system, to be effective, you have to be a thinker to implement your strategies.(And take action!!!)
True, true. “….fear is the mind killer.” Dune. I am looking forward to learning from someone that is as attentive as you seem to be. Keep it up, you got me interested.
Daegan, What you have been sharing about a “true” system is absolutely correct! The reason that I know without a doubt that your definition of a “System” is on point, is by the fact that I’m currently using your new system, “Quantum Wealth System,” and it works like a charm!
I’ve only used the Quantum Wealth System for one full week and I already have about 50 leads in my database, using just a very limited PayPerClick aproach with Google Adwords. Certainly I will do some additional marketing of the system via “Video,” “Ezine,” and “Article” marketing.
I want to sincerely thank you and Michael Anderson , for your insigt and expertise in building the Quantum Wealth System,” which is without doubt, a fail safe system, if the operater of it will follow your directions. God Bless you!
See you at the top,
John G. Seay, M.B.A., MLM Coach & Mentor
Daegan,
Your definition of a system goes well beyond literal the definition that you would find in a dictionary, and I appreciate that.
Truth be told, a system is a method, a plan, a procedure. In simple terms, a system is a way of doing something. So I would have to say in answer to your question, yes it would be a system. I have to admit however, that it is not a way that most people would like to do things.
I think your definition of a system would deserve something more. The way you describe it is more like a “hands-off” system or a “streamlined” system. One that has been tuned and tweaked until it runs like a well oiled machine. That’s the only type system that could be truley “hands-off”.
While “technically” theirs is a system, it is only a system similar to slave labor. The difference is that you will be rewarded for your own proficiency at closing the sale. Although you will have to physically call the leads. Also, you will be purchasing the same leads from the same source as all others who enter this system.
The clock you have to punch is up to you. You get paid according to how well you discipline yourself without supervision. If you are goals driven you can succeed, otherwise you will be utterly disappointed.
Many fail because of rejection in this system. You typically have many “no, not for me” answers before you get a “Yes.” Very frustrating for most. Even a car salesman has to deal with tire kickers, but usually his “leads” are actively seeking his “product” making for a better balance between rejections and acceptances.
Sorry for being so windy, Deagan. Everyone has to decide for themselves based on individual personality traits which will work best. Most would fare much better under a full system.
Thanks for your leadership Deagan,
Robert
Earl,
You know you’re right. When I think of systems I’m thinking like an assembly line that just goes. That’s the power of systems when I’m discussing.
To the top,
Daegan
Naturally everyone would be interested in a system that is effortless, an assembly line that would continue to produce with little, or no involvement.
But doesn’t any system need a certain amount of maintanence to stay current or just to keep running smoothly?
Even a robot operated assembly line still needs people to set up, start, and maintain. It just doesn’t require constant physical attention once it is functioning.
Robert and Earl,
Correct. You or someone you name starts the system. The system runs. You or someone you appoint manages.
To the top,
Daegan
This is not true a system, just a comnponent of one. It take too muchinterventions to guide someone from one place to another and to finally commit to spending the dollars to get involved. If I were away like you were in Greece or somewhere elaqse, my business woulod come to a screeching halt. It is totally necessary to call leads or contacts, however you get them, and then it take convincing, cajpoling uner the guise of looking out for what is best for the prospect. Some will believe it and some won’t, Thaqt just loeaves you at the starting gate all over again to start by finding a spource of leads who are looking for what you have. Not much of a system at all, without the perwson piecing it together in order to try and make it happen. If you are good enough and persistent enough you can get it to work. Otherwise its just a group of individual procedures that one has to put together the pieces and work them as opposed to the system working itself and continuing to operate whether you are there or not.
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You know what Daegan, I think you’re like all the rest. You talk real big, but all you’re really trying to do is sell, sell, sell. I have a website and a powermall. I’ve tried affiliate marketing, processing rebates & typing for dollars. I haven’t earned one red cent. You promise millions, but you charge anywhere from just shipping & handling to a couple thousand dollars for your programs. I think you’re all a bunch of crooks.
Lori,
Fair enough, but negativity get’s you no where and it’s probably a big reason you’re having trouble now. You have to change that attitude before anything will change in your business. And yes I do charge a small shipping for my free CD. I think this is fair. It cost money to produce, to fulfill and to ship. All I’d like to do is cover my cost. What’s on the CD is quite literally how I went from scrtach to where I am now. To give that away for the cost of shipping is no problem for the person who’s looking for success and not a place to complain. I stand by all I do and make no excuses. And if that makes you a little angry it’s NOT really me or the rest you’re angry or frustrated with it’s the person you see when you look in the mirror.
To the top,
Daegan
Daegan,
I believe that selling is extremely important. Whether in business or just doing any routine activity, consciously or unconsciously, we always sell sell and sell. When you talk to your friend and get into a little argument about last night’s show on TV, you may not sell any products or services, but you try to sell your idea. Selling is basically a transference of feeling and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it. Sometimes, it’s the people who are stubborn and do not want to change their attitude that resent selling. They do not want to be influenced/sold. So deep inside, they hate selling and it’s just a simple logic to understand that you will never be good at something you resent at.
For those resenting selling, there is a good way to cure the hatred. You have to shift your perspective from ‘trying to sell’ to ‘helping you customer to buy’. Although it seems simplistic, it can make a big difference. Notice that the first is usually a win-lose situation where you get the profit but do not care about the customers. The latter is a win-win situation. You get the profit and customers are happy with the purchase.
So keep on ’selling’, Daegan
Cheers,
Reyn
I don’t think this is a system by your definition. It is not leveraged nor is it non-physical. Each call you are required to make in this method is only one call, you have to make individual calls and speak to each individual in order to make a sale. Given the rejections that this type of calling leads to (I certainly get annoyed when someone I don’t know calls me out of the blue to get me to buy something I didn’t ask for and don’t want or need). And yes I realize that rejection of an offer happens with mailings or surfing, ptc, etc. but I don’t have to listen to those rejections.
I don’t have the time or energy to sit beside a phone all evening having people hang up on me. I’d much rather be beading.
Your definition of a system makes more sense, more people see an ad in one “call”, ie. email, ptc ad, surfing at a traffic exchange than I could contact in one evening.
However, the skeptic in me says that most of what people are trying to sell me online are systems for me to go and sell. So it seems eventually all that’s being bought and sold are methods of buying and selling-no goods, no items, no BEADS, just concepts. I just want to sell beads and beadwork-eventually, not financially set up to really start yet-but as mentioned it takes money to build up stock. So, to some degree, I agree with Lori. There are many scams out there, too many “gurus” who are just making their “7-figure incomes” on the back of my slave labor. How does one tell the scams from something legitimate? don’t know, do you? I do believe a person can earn an income online, but the system? that I haven’t figured out yet-how am I supposed to know which works best for me? I’m not a business person-I’m a biochemist by training, can calculate the number of pieces of DNA in a sample, but have trouble with my checkbook. I know how to speak chemistry, but don’t know business yet well enough to speak it even simply. but since I can learn chemistry, I’m sure I can learn something about business. but getting flooded with emails to buy this method, or that system, this book or that webpage is way confusing.
Deagan,
I would like to say here and now that I have never received such a load of common sense information in all the time I’ve been involved with the internet. I not only received ONE free CD which on its own is terrific value but TEN CDs All chocked full of exciting information, so much indeed that I have hardly taken time out to eat over the last two days whils I’ve been watching them, they are so full of valuable information. I’m now 69 and have been trying to make a full time living off the internet and am looking forward to using your information in your program to fullfill this dream.
At last a TRUE and EASY TO FOLLOW Road map to make money on the internet.
Im following you to the TOP.
Derek.
Lori I’ve never heard Daegan PROMISE “millions” to anyone because no one can legitimately do that because no one can guarantee another person’s actions or will to succeed. Also by your statement “sell, sell, sell,” I perceive that you may have an issue with major success.
You may want to read “Secrets Of The Millionaire Mind” by T. Harv Eker. There you will find “Your Money Blueprint” and “The Wealth Files - Seventeen Ways Rich People Think and Act Differently From Poor and Middle-Class People.” This may aid you in your quest to be financially successful because success begins in the mind and negativity blocks being the best you can be.
Sorry to digress Daegan I was inmspired to pass that on to Lori… regarding your question. I’ve never bought leads, never will and no it isn’t a system to create success for the new person in my opinion. However, it is a system that creates success for the “higher-ups” that promote using it because there’s leverage in the numbers.
If a “Leader” suggested that everyone do this and you had hundreds or even a thousand plus people buying and calling leads from a predetermined lead provider guess who benefits in the end? So we can see it is a system of sorts, just not a system for new people to become very successful in.
Great job Daegan!
Continued Success,
Richard “Ex-horseplayer” Turner Jr.
http://www.globaltalk247.com
1. Whether or not this is in fact a system.
I believe that this is a system because their are specific steps that can be taken in a sequential order and specific results can be achieved if you follow the steps each and every time.
However, I beleive this system has a major flaw. It is dependent on the person who is buying the leads and making the calls. I know very few people who could continue to call leads day in and day out for an extended period of time. As a result, this system will not work long term and will not work for everybody.
I would not follow this system and would prefer to follow a system that takes me or any other person out of equation (as much as possible). Specifically, I would follow a system that would work if I was in a good mood, bad mood, had a lot of time or had a little time.
I believe every system requires some human interaction but I am looking for a system that has predicatble results based on specific efforts.
2. Why it is or is not.
3. What you would do if presented with this system.
4. What you would consider a REAL system after
learning the basal components shared today.
I believe that this is a system because their are specific steps that can be taken in a sequential order and specific results can be achieved if you follow the steps each and every time.
However, I beleive this system has a major flaw. It is dependent on the person who is buying the leads and making the calls. I know very few people who could continue to call leads day in and day out for an extended period of time. As a result, this system will not work long term and will not work for everybody.
I would not follow this system and would prefer to follow a system that takes me or any other person out of equation (as much as possible). Specifically, I would follow a system that would work if I was in a good mood, bad mood, had a lot of time or had a little time.
I believe every system requires some human interaction but I am looking for a system that has predicatble results based on specific efforts.
Great topic with good discussion, Daegan. First, in response to your question:
I wouldn’t call this a system, but rather a task list.
While a system does require some initial set up, it does get to the point where it doesn’t require daily interaction. This task list would require continual action in order to work. You couldn’t set it up and leave town for 2 weeks and expect anything to occur in your absence.
If I was presented with this “system”, I would reject it. If it was a company that I believed in and wanted to be a part of, I would instead analyze whether or not I could use an actual system to grow that business (and honestly, I can’t think of a business that you COULDN’T use the type of system you teach).
To me a real system is something that takes some time, effort and dedication to build — especially in the beginning. But, once you get the major components set in place, you simply maintain what you have built. This is where I think the “30 minutes a day” you hear so often comes into play. Once you have your system set up, you should be able to maintain it in a short amount of time. Although, there will always be times you will want to develop more time, effort and money to grow it further.
In response to Lori, I have purchased many, many programs and signed up for and received many, many “free” programs promising to make me millions. I know exactly where you are coming from. But, I have to say that I have NEVER received so much free content from any of the others as I have from you, Daegan. You are always sending a link to a report or audio clip that I can download for free that gives me more tips on how to grow my business. Have I raked in millions with your advice. No, at least, not yet. But, this is good, solid information and, like any business, internet network marketing takes an initial investment of time, effort and money to get it going.
Thanks, Daegan!
Cheree
Daegan it is very interesting reading all these different ideas and views on systems the only system I am interested in is the one that can help me get to the top there is so much B.S. out there you need to be a technician to understand most of it. I want something (as a ordinary lay person with only a little understanding of basic computer set up) that you can set in motion and forget about it, yea I know that if it was out there everyone would be using it so I have to look at the nearest to it, yours sounds like it can be close to what I am looking for. A really good system is one where you can set up the business side on automation and only have to take care of the personal side like answering email or commenting on discussion pages.
Thanks for your leadership Daegan!
The scenario that you described above is a system that use to work in the old days. Its a flawed system that many of the struggling marketers have been exposed to for many years. Unfortunately, many leaders in the industry who know better, is still promoting this.
It is an in-effective system that requires hard work, highly honed marketing skills possessed by only a very small percentage of opportunity seekers. It CANNOT be duplicated by the vast majority and CANNOT be operated on autopilot. This is why the failure rate in this industry is upwards of 95%.
Many of the people who join a network marketing company have good intentions. They are hard working people who can follow instructions, if those instructions will lead to them seeing some results sooner, than later. However, without positive results they will quit!
A few years ago I joined a network marketing company. My sponsor was doing it the old way, so I started to do it like that. Within 6 months I ended up personally sponsoring 56 people; however, none of those people were able to do what I was doing. Even after plugging into the training calls and following my uplines advice, only about 10% were able to sponsor new reps.
I sent a detailed email to one of the top income earners in the company outlining what I was doing and the results. His response to me was to keep on doing what I was doing. Well, after that response I took a break, because what I was doing just wasn’t working and I didn’t know any better. Fortunately, I discovered the internet and started learning how to use it effectively.
If I were presented with a system like that now, I would first offer to share my views of an effective marketing system. If that person is not interested, then I’d just tell them to take a hike.
To me, an effective marketing system should have some key components including:
=> Taking the prospect through a series of steps that pre-qualifies them…
=> Requires them to make a financial commitment - to see how serious they are…
=> Captures and stores their details…
=> Offer an effective email follow-up…
=> Provide a funded proposal for up front cash flow…
=> Provide one or more solid residual income streams…
=> Duplication and Automation.
An effective system should provide the opportunity for anyone to plug into that system, follow some basic instructions and start seeing results within a short period of time, without doing any of the old stuff.
Every person who have a desire to create a successful business MUST master the skills required. Depending on the level of knowledge and experience that the individual has, along with how fast they can learn, will determine how long they will take to create massive success.
Plugging into an effective marketing system will provide the ground-floor for excelling at a much faster pace than doing it on your own, as it would provide training, leverage, duplication and automation.
I can safely say here that your new Quantum Wealth System pass with flying colors! After 3 weeks of plugging into this system and just following a few of your ideas, I have generated over 160 leads with over 7% of those leads taking action by joining QWS and GW, while making a few hundred bucks in the process… and this was all for FREE!
Once again thanks for your leadership!
Godfrey Thaxter
Hey Daegan,
I just have to respond to the response you gave that person.
“You hit the nail right on the head”. It is so unfortunate that many of us are looking for the answer on the outside, while many times its the inside that is at fault.
As I’ve always said, “it starts with YOU”! No matter how good the system is, YOU have to take responsibility for your own actions.
Too often we see people get started with a system, try it for a short while then quit and move on to another system, without analyzing what went wrong in the first place.
I have just been a subscriber of yours for a few months, but if there’s one thing I admire about you is that you always analyze every situation to see why you get a certain result.
For those who continue to fail and keep jumping from one program to another, before you join another program just STOP for a moment, take stock of where you are and ask yourself some questions:
=> What am I doing wrong?…
=> What am I doing right?…
=> Is it the system’s fault, or is it… my fault?
Many of us don’t like to look in the mirror, mainly because we don’t like to see the person looking back at us. But that is where it starts! If you are not comfortable with that person staring back at YOU, then that is where you MUST start.
Assess your situation before you move on, otherwise you will continue in your downward spiral. Remember the old saying, “Work harder on yourself than on your job”!
Personal growth and development holds the key to sustainable success in life, so why not start this process to get your business to the next level! No one can dream of creating massive success without “burning the midnight oil”. As Jim Rohn puts it, “study, practice and teach”. We MUST learn what successful people are doing and start following in their footsteps!
It starts with YOU!
Thanks again Daegan.
Godfrey
Guys,
Listen Daegan is the real deal. Why?, because I have been following his e-mails for years now and the knowledge I have learned has been huge. Want proof that he is the real deal online?, google him
He is not saying that success is immediate or guaranteed but he will share with all of ye how he did it.
He put himself in a situation where it was IMPOSSIBLE to lose. Generating luducrous amount of leads for free daily ultimatley ensures a thriving business
What he can give you is a blueprint. Your individual success will then come down to how much you can put into this.
Jacko
Fell for the calling leads system just did not work so i guess thats not a system so much time and effort for not even one customer so i guess i just have to try Daegan,s way.
Unfortunatlely Daegan I have to say that I have fallen for this kind of
so called “system” before.
I spent thousands of dollars on leads and then thousands more getting trained
on how to speak to the so called Fresh Leads. After 6 months, thousands of
wrong numbers, no answers, voice messages, talking to people that wanted a job not a business, massive amounts of rejections I managed to sign up 3 people.
This was not a system! At least not for me. It was a system for my upline that referred everyone to a particular lead source and set up co-ops, and out sourced the training. He made money from the efforts of those participating in the “system” with very little effort. We were part of His “System”.
This in my book is not a business system unless you are the one directing people to use the leads, but it is defitnetly not if you are the the actual person putting all the effort in doing the calls.
If I ever had someone tell me that this was the “system” they had… I would not only turn them down and walk away… I would RUN Away from that team/opportunity!
The only system I have ever come across that is truly a system one can build a home based business on semi-autopilot in the way you described here is found at http://www.QuantumWealthSystem.info
Lori,
I must speak up for Daegan here.
You would not expect for a University to give you
all the knowledge you need to become successful in a particular
profession for Free… Right?!
The resources that Daegan puts out there are not be readily found
out there. If it was not for his trainings and courses I would still be
going through out lot of costly ‘trail and error’.
As I mentioned before on my other comment… I am not afraid to spend
money on good training. If I had not spent money on good training I
would have never been able to build several small businesses that have
made me a great six-figure income for the last 20 years!
I am very thankful that when I decided to market online a colleague pointed
me towards Daegan’s trainings. It has saved me both time and money many times
over what I have spent. I have bought everything he offers. I have also spent
a lot of money on other internet marketer’s info products and I never have felt
taken advantage of.
I guess you get out of things what you are looking for. If you have a negative
mindset and you fixate on the problems in life or business… many times that is
what you find. However, if you decide to look at things in a positive way… and
focus on solutions… then that is what life will give you back.
I’m not saying all programs on the internet are going to make you money if you
only follow what they teach you… but if you would focus on how you can make it
work for you instead on blaming others for your failure… you will go a lot further in business and in life in general.
To your success,
Eli
hallo Daegan,
Brand new here but your honesty hit me. Got going VERY slowly as cyberspace is new to me.I have figured that I cannot stomach another 5 years of cold calling, wheeling people along, only to lose them again.After 60+ sign ups over 5 years got no-where. I can have no option but to get into the new world of marketing because the old way drives people away. I go mad at every tele-sales call I get so how can I do it or expect others to do it.It makes sense to position yourself where people are looking for you and what you have to offer.People work on line and phones are put off mostly these days.Aproaching strangers and knocking on doors might just get you shot at!I see from comments that your Quantum Wealth System is best–now for a shot at that one!
Guys who can take all this critism and stand tall are for real. Keep up the good work.
Rose
To Lori,
Everything you listed that you tried are scams or will fail without proper instruction. I think that goes for anything in life. From the sound of your comment you probably tried affiliate marketing by picking a random product and posting free classifieds. You are looking for a free way to get rich quick and you will never find that, ever.
I have tried the same crap you have, actually no I have tried more. I have never questioned the reasonable cost of good information, and no price is better than free. Daegan’s products all overdeliver, and Im sure if you APPLY what you learn you will succeed.
Also, mypowermall is overall a crappy business. You can join for free, why would anyone join you? You need to build value for yourself or you will never recruit enough people to stay afloat.
Trust me Lori, you are a long way off before you even earn the right to complain. Those who have earned, usually keep on going to succeed, like the 28 year old from Maryland who spent $7000 (Daegan) calling leads before finally succeeding, or the 20 year old college student who went $7500 into debt learning how to succeed online (myself).
So dont complain over free stuff, apparently you like free stuff a lot since your business is free, so pick up the cd. Oh and btw your website doesn’t work either.
Pay your dues and dont fail until you succeed,
Sylvan Noel
For all the naysayers,
I had the priviledge to speak with Daegan for one hour on the phone about a month ago.
He took the time to give me some business building tips - for FREE - that have increased
my lead generation by 48%.
He also gave me the recording of that call - for FREE - that I do listen to and learn from.
Does this sound like a crook to you? What did he get from that? Only the pleasure of
helping me - no money.
I have been on Daegan’s mailing list since March of 2008. I have learned so much from him,
and if it wasn’t for him, I would likely be calling leads (like my network marketing company teaches) and getting nowhere.
So I want to thank you Daegan, for being you! And helping so many people to build their dreams!
You Totally Rock!
To the Top!
Kim
Hi Daegan
Here’s the missing puzzle they miss about the system. The system is THEMSELVES first. That has to work first! Or forget people.
Then the system you got, the vehicle will then be approachable, understandable, applicable to them. But since their minds is full of “but system is not for me” and “it don’t work for me,” and…”I’m not good with people, I am a chemist,” or “I am this and I am that,” then..simple.
You don’t qualify! Period.
1. Attitude. This comes first in network marketing. This first.
2. It’s LONG TERM. Takes work. So think big and open mind people.
2. Investment in knowledge consistently.
3. Action consistently.
95% Daegan, won’t even pass phase 1. That doesn’t matter because 5% is a very large number of people who get it. The rest, they’ll get it when their in debt and they had enough being pushed around by their boss, or their friends who keep telling what they want to hear. Which is..
“it doesn’t work.”
It’s in their head, it keeps saying, “WHAT IF I CAN’T HANDLE IT.”
To the top
Adam
Hey Daegan, whats up? well first im a newbie at this internet marketing thing. I read all the comments you pointed out and have to say you can get great ideas by just reading what people have to say. I guess if you listen to what people are complaining about and try to correct those problems within your own business, well thats half the battle. But, what is a system? I believe a system truly takes time to develop. I’ve been in direct sales for years and the one thing that is true out there and online is everything takes time. Almost every business I’ve been apart of that has had any success has taken over 1 year to start making any money. So is there any “one” system that works, I find it hard to believe one exists. Success takes work, if it were easy than everyone would be doing it, making money, and vacationing in Greece. I’m truly excited about my new venture online because as much as it seems that everyone is doing it, the fact is, not alot of people are succeeding because of that immediate gratification thing. So I apologize for not directly answering the questions you posted but my suggestion for the unsuccessful is to organize, be persistent and consistent and never give up. Don’t quit your day job thinking just becuase you have an “online” business that you can concentrate solely on it and have it supplement your old pay or what have you. This is just my opinion, and I dont know maybe in a few years everyone will be bitching at me about how my systems dont work and how im a “crook”. I can’t wait, because when your the target of all that, you’ve hit success baby!! To the top!!! Sorry if I accidentally step on a few heads and hands on my way up, but like George and Weezy say, “I’m moving on up, to the internet markeing success side, to a deluxe condo in the sky”…Love ya show Daegan, you da man!!
Hello Daegan, I have just started an online business, with Mary Gertsen’s “Global Cash Flow Network”, and am strugling, with the how to’s. Am starting to realise that an open mind is the key to life and business. I am not sure of a few things like what I am selling is it of interest to anyone out there, has what I’ve been doing, going to get me any results, yeah total newbie here!!! You probably don’t get much mail from people like me, however I realize that if you don’t ask ?s you won’t figure out your problem, my ?s may seem remeadeal, however I’m at the level of a pre-schooler in the internet marketting business.
Adam,
You made me laugh out loud with that George The Weezy reference. I like it!
To the top,
Daegan
Daegan,
there is nothing wrong with being a chemist floundering around trying to learn something new. I did not feel like I was being negative-with the “I can’t do this, i don’t understand” attitude. I talk ed about being confused by what was being emailed to me everyday- 50-60 offers, new programs, the one that will be the One, this method, that business. It is confusing. and my question was how does one discern the crap from the good? I’m interested, i want to learn, I know I can learn-the trick is knowing what to learn. In school, I took plenty of classes I never really needed-but I could either drop them if they were too far off course, or stick with them and learn a new discipline. I took 4 statistics classes, and never really needed statistics-but the teacher was amazing! so it was worth my time and work to learn much more than just statistics from this man.
so, my point there is that I could go to a class, meet the teacher, sit in for a few sessions and decide if it was going to be useful or not. Particularly in Grad School, my tuition was taken care of-i could try different things. but when somebody in an email says their way is best and somebody else says No, my way is best, It’s very different from attending a sit in class and deciding to stay in the class or find another one. It’s taking too much on faith, and when I’ve been ripped off badly-I’m hesitant to just take it all on faith that this way or that way is the best. I am not saying that you are a rip off; I’m asking, I thought clearly, how does one figure out what is good or what is crap? That’s all-no negativity, no bad attitude or defeatist thoughts - just nervousness at thinking about making a big step in my life, how to do this big step without getting ripped off, and finding what I need to learn from someone who can teach.
thanks for listening,
Lilly
HiDaegan,
The way you have described a system above I strongly agree with you. You realy encouraged me and what i can say we can us your way.keep it up Brother.
Thank you very much daegan. My business never works because I dont know how to work. please help me how to do it.
Regards and God bless you
Nancy
Hi Daegan,
Thank you for the Leadership. I’m never been working in Network Marketing Business before. I need someone that could guide me and give the better instructions and guidelines how this business works. To understand more about your products I should get more information and teaching from you in order to start my business.
I don’t know how to start and begin on this business. Please advise.
Best regards,
Christina
Thank you very much daegan. My work never works well iam doctor of arts in english i like change my place that my level not moving well over here in libya what is the way that able me to change all that bad time and avoid wasting my time iam from IRAQ
Regards and God bless you
adil
Daegan:
I have been to the so-call free websites only to find a hidden charge usually it’s the shipping and handling. I have tried to get a business started online, was promised help to get it going, and the person promised to stay with me until I succeeded. None of this happened. I don’t know who to trust anymore. My health gets in the way of everything I do. In the meantime I answer emails and have come to the conclusion that anyone who asks for money up front should be arrested for fraud and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I am sending all emails to the federal government and they will handle this. I have lost alot of money with false promises and being scammed by all who send email.
I can tell you right now. Daegan. You are not the only one just one of the many who sends spam promises the moon and stars and does not deliver.
Is this in fact a business system? No. Why it’s not? Because you have no support system in place. You would not be able to leave the business for a period of time wihtout it failing you. If this, so called business system was presented to me I would not commit to it. What do I consider a real business system? A business with a support system in place in place so I can leave it at any given time and not have to worry about it’s productivity.
Hey Guys,
Just poping by… I am on Daegan´s list for a while and I find it really good the Stuff he is writing. Daegan, I would like to see your automatised Funnel. I am using one right now and it´s really great. Some people call it a Funded Proposal.
Do you also offer the possibility of a COOP and to benefit from your COOPeration… because - I think that the hardest for me is to get MLMers to my website - which is not that bad because - when they are there they just subscribe and get more success than I do (proof it´s working :)!)
Anyway - thanks for everything
Gengis
PS You can Check my Website for comments - really appreciated:
http://www.PowerMLMLeadGenerator.com
To Lilly,
There are lots and lots of different ways one can do things.
Although I’m still a newbie and still learning, I believe you’ll just have to do a bit of research. Find and read the articles by the author and see if they give you what you need. I guess the best authors are those who keeps it simple and sweet.
Personally, I usually find information which is simple to understand, read and implement. I, too, have tonnes of mails in my inbox, but there’s always a few authors which I will always tend to read from. And every month I’ll just unsubscribe from those I don’t click on. Just by saying this, that’s why I still have Daegan’s emails still streaming through.
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Hi Daegan,
I have read all your article u sent me, and i’m really fasinated that someone could actrually create a marketing system that is so poweful, you are really a genious. am very interested on coming on board, but am quite nervious because i really dont know much about website really, and i dont want to fail, i hate to fail really.
I just scared, I may not know how to operate the system,as dave explain u have to go to other site to choose article that will really sell the business and generate leads’ that have me a little but
scaredy. but am really blown away by your marketing stratigies never seen on like this before. all i nedd to here from u is valerie u can do it is very easy.
Ps. daegan thank for your intervention in helpind those who cannot help themself may God continue to add his blessing upon you and u maybe able to help many others. how to here from u soon
Hi Daegan,
I have read all your article u sent me, and i’m really fasinated that someone could actrually create a marketing system that is so poweful, you are really a genious. am very interested on coming on board, but am quite nervious because i really dont know much about website really, and i dont want to fail, i hate to fail really.
I’m just scared, I may not know how to operate the system,as dave explain u have to go to other site to choose article that will really sell the business and generate leads’ that have me a little
scared. but am really blown away by your marketing stratigies never seen one like this before. all I need to here from you is valerie you can do it it is very easy.
Ps. daegan thank for your intervention in helpind those who cannot help themself may God continue to add his blessing upon you, that you will be able to help many others. hope to here from u soon.
Yes it is a system a system for the person that is bringing you in to the biz point 1: get you to pay the money. #2: get you to purchase leads from a vendor that he/she is an affiliate so they make money on you. and #3 to get you to call leads that probably dont equate to a hill of beans in turn you buy more leads on and on until you finally give up and search elsewhere.
Hi Daegan,
I am one of those people who have spent thousands of dollars on so called systems(the number makes me mad). Anyway, I know “exactly” what you are referring to. The way you explain leverage is what I have been looking for. Investing and wasting my time and money into lotions,potions and things from the ocean. The companies suck you in by giving you a money back guarantee. They sell you a “fake” system where you have to purchase so much of their product each and every month, then you have to purchase leads, call and recruit them (on your own)etc,etc,etc.
I definitely like what I read in your article. I am joining you soon. No fear. I’ll take a risk. If I stop my pursuit because of scam artists, then I won’t find what I’m looking for, which I believe is your “system”. Thanks for allowing me to comment. Jason
Hi Daegan,
Systems are great - The only problem is that people have
to personally get it up and running!
Too often, I come across people who want to have an
online business to make money and they don’t want to put
in the necessary work to get the system up and running.
They just want to be spoon fed to success.
I believe succeeding in online businesses (and offline
for that matter) is simply taking the small steps on
a very consistent basis.
Asher
BRAINWASHED BRAINWASHED BRAINWASHED!!!
Hi Champions,
Let me chime in on this one. First of all “EVERYTHING WORKS”, When you read this quote “Most network marketing or home business systems are fundamentally flawed” that quote it’s just a marketing tactic they gets your failing mojo juices flowing to find another method of growing your business. Does that means it’s wrong to do so? I don’t think so it’s just good business. My wife and I have made 6 figures in multiple companies in this industry and we’ve done it all and shared laughs with other successful marketers who have done it all. The question you have to ask yourself is what lifestyle do you want while building your business. If you want to walk around all day and pass out flyers or litter parking lots with drop cards or call family and friends, do home parties then do so. Does it work? Yes! On the other hand if you have a desire to never leave home and build a business then learn online marketing. They all have a learning curve and require work, it’s just a matter of what lifestyle you desire and how you want to personally build. Daegan has mastered the online side but says it himself offline relationship marketing was never his strength, so what do you do? We’ll you recruit someone from the internet that likes to build offline, it happens everyday.
The point is all methods work, you have heard people become successful using everything. The question you have to ask is when you enroll a new person can you offer them a buffet. My wife and I pride ourself in learning it all so when I enroll “Joe Sixpack” and he hates to sit at home by his computer and does not know what a email is, then joe gets my blueprint on successful offline building methods. When Mary comes to me and say I have to stay at home a build then we offer her a blueprint on online methods.
Now you have provided your new prospect a buffet of success to choose from. Then the important stuff starts like personal development and accountability.
Phillip L
Dynasty Creators Intl
CEO/Founder
www.SponsorDaddyleader.com
I read all the comments on this site and I have to say that it sounds good, but I do implement it to other websites that you may already have. I don’t to lose the sites, as I have invested monies already and don’t want to throw that money away. I don’t to get rich fast, but I would like to get some cash flowing in to my account as soon as possible. Will this work for that.
hi daegan…i am a network marketer from india..the issue is my upline isnt competent enough..i want to branch out on my own…also i want to do network marketing part time spending about 1-2 hours daily…i dont expect to earn huge money with the time spend on network marketing..but the company i promote is called myvideotalk (www.myvideotalk.com)…do you think you have the system for my requirements above…i need a mentor to help me out..most of my uplines are not helpful..can you guide me out personally..i am a willing and enthusiastic student…i need a system by which i dont need to go for coldcalling and hotelmeetings etc..i need a system which works for me if i work hard on the system..can you guide me and help me out in this regard…i am a good follower of instructions..expecting a reply from you asap…thanks ..tk cre..
Wow, some of the negative comments towards Daegan are absolutely amazing. What the do some of you expect from him? He has delivered a step-by-step blueprint for you to follow (which btw I am following). What makes some of you think that you are so special out of the thousands of people who he trains and mentors (that’s all of us) that you deserve specialized treatment?
You guys are the kind of people that I stay away from who I would never allow in my “mastermind group”. I no longer deal with negative influences and none of you should for that matter. I have learned to take accountability for myself and I am the ONLY block from my success.
Some of you guys will sit up here and spew a bunch of bs about him but look at all the HUNDREDS of people who he has coached and mentored who are making a 5-figure monthly income. You sure don’t hear them complaining. In fact I run into people all the time online who praise this man for their success. Get off his back and look at yourselves and hold yourselves accountable for your failures and successes.
He has provided the blueprint CLEARLY in his material. My question to those of you blatantly hatin’ is are you following it? Or are you sitting around waiting for you and the universe to come into “perfect alignment” to move forward? If you complainers are sitting back waiting for that to happen then let me let you all in on a little secret… IT AIN’T HAPPENIN’!
Time waits for no one. I don’t profess to be this bad ass internet marketer but I will say that Daegan is the first person who actually showed that he gave a damn about his students and he has helped me from just one conference call begin the process of changing my mindset about how I see myself in relationship to my business. How many times have we been told that Internet Network Marketing is 95% mental the other 5% is physical. Well it’s true.
It seems like some of you need to get a life coach, read Think And Grow Rich and grow some balls and stop looking for someone to babysit your path to success. Daegan is about creating leaders not followers. It’s clear in reading this blog that some of you have already decided what position you are in. But its not too late to change.
I’m glad I took the “right pill” and I’m on my way to the top.
Thank you for the negative comments. You just inspired me to write my fifth article of the day: “What To Do About Whiny Downline Members Who Sit Around And Complain, Do Nothing And Then Blame You For Their Failures”.
Peace!
The reality is this. You have to hold yourself accountable for your own failures and successes. I don’t want anyone to hold me by the hand so-to-speak. That is not what is going to help me become an effective leader to my downline. I want someone to say “hey, here you go. Try this and see how it works out.” If it doesn’t work I then go back for help to get a “tune-up” on what exactly I might be doing wrong. That is the only time I approach my leaders.
Internet Network Marketing is all about duplication. Daegan’s system works when applied. I work for a network marketing company also and I having to learn to step outside of the world of the internet and get back to meeting people on the streets. But in my company, the “system” obviously works because there are too many people who have created financial independence who are living proof.
Most of the people who complain about a system not working are usually people who are expecting an overnight miracle.
I have to agree with Phil. Not every system works for everyone. But you won’t know that until you get out and try. The keyword is TRY. I personally prefer internet marketing to traditional network marketing but I believe in myself and my abilities to be successful at any system that I try. It’s all about building the confidence in yourself to know that you can do it.
I lost a lot of money on leads
without any results/sign ups
now I get leads for free and
responsive prospects
Thanks Deagon
I spent thousands of dollars on leads and then thousands more getting trained
on how to speak to the so called Fresh Leads. After 6 months, thousands of
wrong numbers, no answers, voice messages, talking to people that wanted a job not a business, massive amounts of rejections I managed to sign up 0 people.
I am a member of the NFL (No Friend Left)my friend and family think I was wasting my time
until I found that I have to market myself anf not the product That I am marketing.
Daegan my brother you are so damn right. But even with your system promotion is necessary, some marketing companies are only ripping off people telling them keep calling leads fake it till you make it. REAL SYSTEMS attract leads and you’ll get more signup in you business.
The next day we sign up and get involved and
we get exposed to our new system and we are
told to go buy leads at a pre chosen vendor
and then to call and read a pre written script
to those leads.
This is a system. It will work as well as any provided who you are ‘being’ is what who you are talking with wants what you got. However you find leads (one notch above suspects - everyone)is one thing. How you relate to them is another. Turning leads into prospects and prospects into contacts and contacts into teammates is about YOU. The more the system rerpesents who you are the more likely the time required to relate with the contact is reduced. Ultimately people will join you based on you not on your system. Work on you first. The ’system’ you use can be as expensive and as complicated as you desire to assist in finding the best prospects.
There are twelve Laws besides the Law of Attraction. Do you know them all? http://www.iceburner.net
Daegan will your information work with any MLM or net working product or service, As I’m looking into a few now?. What I Have read and heard sofar looks like it would, But I could really use your Expert Advice. One is: Global Cash Gifting, the other is a Health Company called: Isagenix I have looked at some incredable Testimonies, Mass amounts of ,People losing weight, health drasticly improoved, Lowered colesteral, More Energy, Terrific Marketing plan, With many way’s to earn a fantastic living helping people get well. And I have a friend that just signed up in a Company called: ” Prime America ” said to help people Financialy Lower house payments, Save people from loseing homes/Life Ins etc, Any word or feeling on that?.
I understand you may be a while in getting back to me.
Thanks Randall May
My response to the question ” Is this a system?” is … It`s a system! -But how effective
is that system?
And Daegan, you have obviously defined for us the meaning of what it`s like to have
a system that is effective … but I have even a greater question …
What makes one person ” USE ” a system more effectively than another person -
even when they`re using the same system? Is it because of who they are ( their personality)?
or some combination of other factors?
Anyway, that`s why I`m here to learn more about your system, and exactly how you are able to
produce such extraordinary income WITHOUT all the grunt work.
Lori,
I understand what you are saying … but I also understand what everyone
else is saying.
I will share my view from both sides and why I believe Daegan`s decision to get his information
out to his target audience in this way should be more than appreciated. This doesn`t mean I blindly
agree with all marketers who use this method to get people to invest in their goods ( Because
the ” value ” that they provide may not outweigh the price they ask you to pay, even if it is “only the shipping & handling ” ) No matter what, sales promotion can lead anyone to believe the wrong thing if not careful. ( Research!! )
Ok, lets say we know each other and for whatever reason you needed to borrow some money from me
(say like $10,000 )and I agreed to send it to you by mail, but you had to cover the cost of delivery, would you allow that to stand in the way of you getting the money? ( I would hope not, if you really need it! )
In this way I understand this aspect of the ” funded proposal thingy ” what Daegan is doing ( only
) … But as I said, I do understand where you`re coming from … Let me now comment
in the example I gave, you would have to ” pay me back” :), but what he`s offering is ” FREE ” Plus BONUSES!!!)
Talk about getting something for nothing, this makes the shipping & handling cost of $6.77 pale in the face of the value this FREE cd / bonus pack offers you. He could have charged for the value of the product and the shipping & handling, but he didn`t. ( In that respect we should count our blessings
on that.
Remember I said it should be more than appreciated when a marketer offers something of high value for FREE, asks you to pay for the shipping & handling? Ok, what bothered me was ” HOW ” this is
) and the other way you find out about the shipping & handling is on the ” Order Page” NOTE: Some marketers do tell us up front about the s & h , but because of use of the word ” FREE ” , we overlook the fact ” there is a cost” in which we automatically think they are charging us for the product itself ( not really, just delivery 
) … Which leads me to this question or should I say discovery …
done. Some sales page would say *FREE and have you believing there is ” NO COST ” when if you read more carefully, you would see * ( the asterisk symbol). And finding what *FREE actually is then, might be somewhat difficult because it`s very small or obscure print ( as if they didn`t want you to know
A lot of these FREE products could be spared the shipping & handling cost if they were ” digital products. ” This is the usual way marketers have tried to minimize this cost … but there is another reason ( in which I think is the ” main reason ” ) why some marketers choose this kind of system ( again called the ” funded proposal system ” ) is; they`re in business to make a profit, not a loss. You can really lose a lot of money advertising & marketing the traditional way. So, in order to make any sales you NEED customers, so what better way to strengthen your chances of getting sales than to ONLY deal with people who can express a ” willingness to purchase ” ? And what better way for them to express their ” willingness to purchase ” than to pay for shipping & handling? Again, I see nothing wrong with this … it`s just a better system ( way ) for us marketers to ” create income in the process of growing our internet home-based business ” <– I got the above understanding from tuning in to Daegan Smith.
Thanks Daegan for leading the way!
Lori, I hope I have helped … keep plugging in to what`s going on here.